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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 05:50pm on 24/04/2008 under
(This is the result of several recent conversations.)

No Yank am I, though Brits believe
this label, and it's a pet peeve.
I was not in New England born,
nor raised among the Yankee corn,
but rather brought up in the maize
and bright Midwestern city days.
Although no Southerner am I,
no Southern flag did ever fly,
nor yet am I from the North-East,
and so no Yank am I, at least.

America has Yankees, yes,
who with enduring happiness
embrace the term - they are not me;
I did not come from there, you see.

And thinking apropos thereof,
if I refered to people of
the British Isles, all of them,
as good, upstanding Englishmen,
a cry of indignation would
sound out: "You have misunderstood!
You Yanks, you overlook details
most critical. We are from Wales!
Or Irish! Scots! Not Englishmen!"
We all misunderstand, you ken.

If from New England we once came,
then Yank can be a proper name;
but if American and not -
we may object. It's a weak spot.
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posted by [identity profile] easterbunny.livejournal.com at 04:53pm on 24/04/2008
Nicely put.
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 05:03pm on 24/04/2008
Thank you.
 
posted by [identity profile] chickenfeet2003.livejournal.com at 05:08pm on 24/04/2008
Someone who admits to being from what [livejournal.com profile] lemur_catta describes as the boring rectangular bits in the middle.
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 05:11pm on 24/04/2008
The flyover states, as they're also known.
 
posted by [identity profile] kekhmet.livejournal.com at 06:32pm on 24/04/2008
Not all of the Midwest answers to that description though. I am from the Upper Midwest: raised in Michigan, then lived in Wisconsin for 15 years before moving here. Michigan is about as far as a state can get in shape from being a 'boring rectangular bit', being composed of "that bit where it looks like someone dropped a mitten on the map" (Lower Penninsula) and "that kinda long skinny bit above it thats sticks out into the the Great Lakes too" (Upper Penninsula).
Wisconsin, with one Border defined by the and another largey by the Mississippi River has some pretty darn squiggly outlines too, if not quite as distinctive ;-)
 
posted by [identity profile] jennaria.livejournal.com at 05:30pm on 24/04/2008
How's that saying go? The world calls people from the US 'Yankees.' In the US, they say it's easterners; in the east, it's the north-east; in the north-east, it's New England.

In New Engladn (according to what I was told), the true Yankees are the Vermonters. And in Vermont, they say that if you don't eat apple pie for breakfast, then you're not a real Yankee.

Either that or something about outhouses. I heard this from my mother, so I suspect her of modifying it for my tender ears.
 
posted by [identity profile] pfy.livejournal.com at 11:56pm on 24/04/2008
As told on Usenet by Seth Breidbart:

To a Mexican, all USAians (and maybe Canadians) are Yankees.

To a southerner, northerners are Yankees.

To a northerner, Yankees are people from New England.

To New Englanders, Yankees are people from Maine.

To people from Maine, a Yankee is a crusty old man who lives in a
small town and eats pie for breakfast with a knife.

To a crusty old man from a small town in Maine who eats pie for
breakfast with a knife, there aren't any real Yankees left.


I cannot personally vouch for the accuracy of any of this.
 
posted by [identity profile] noncalorsedumor.livejournal.com at 05:41pm on 24/04/2008
Well said!

Thus saith a Yankee.
 
posted by [identity profile] ladybird97.livejournal.com at 05:43pm on 24/04/2008
The Yankees suck! Go Red Sox! :)

(It was very disconcerting when a Southern friend of mine called me a Yankee for the first time :)
 
posted by [identity profile] my-tw0-cents.livejournal.com at 05:54pm on 24/04/2008
Yay fellow Midwesterner! Love the piece :)
 
posted by [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/la_marquise_de_/ at 06:00pm on 24/04/2008
New Englander, American
I henceforth shall address this fan
Who makes her case with charm and wit
But: British, please and never 'Brit'.
 
posted by [identity profile] kashmera.livejournal.com at 07:03am on 25/04/2008
I dunno. After 5 years in Canada, I seem to have gotten so used to it that I even use it myself these days...
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 10:59pm on 25/04/2008
Can I blame Canada for doing so too, I wonder?
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 10:58pm on 25/04/2008
A beautifully-worded request! It is just that "Brit" is so slangy, or does it have other baggage to bear?
 
posted by [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/la_marquise_de_/ at 10:26am on 26/04/2008
It just sounds wrong to me, somehow, and faintly disparaging -- like that new thing in US tv and film about British teeth all being 'bad', where bad means not orthodontically perfected. Not slangy, exactly but lazy and a bit dismissive.
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posted by [personal profile] gillo at 06:07pm on 24/04/2008
Neat. I claim "Yank" is different from "Yankee", however. Or would you prefer "bloody forriner"? **g,d&r**
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 10:59pm on 25/04/2008
Of course, if "bloody forriner" = "Yank", then there are Yanks from France and Australia?
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posted by [personal profile] gillo at 07:47pm on 27/04/2008
Nah. They are Frogs and Ozzies. We have varied subtle abuse here...
 
posted by [identity profile] benet.livejournal.com at 06:29pm on 24/04/2008
Southerners will occasionally include Canadians (or at least Upper Canadians) in the general category of Yankees, and in my experience the British don't do this.

Well, actually, they will call a Canadian a Yank on the basis of accent, and when called on it they will not withdraw it, but rather mumble something about how we're really all the same anyway. No amount of "Yeah, except the part where we fought your stupid wars for an extra century and a half, you ungrateful moron" will help. But this I attribute not to overgeneralization, but rather to reluctance to lose face by retracting an mis-statement.
 
posted by [identity profile] gandalfgreyhame.livejournal.com at 03:03am on 26/04/2008
Ah yes... while living in the south I was simply a damn yankee (one town - Cary - was often referred to as the "Containment Area for Relocated Yankees"), however here I can proudly be a New Yorker... so long as I don't root for the Yankees baseball team, that is. :)

 
posted by [identity profile] a-d-medievalist.livejournal.com at 04:26am on 26/04/2008
I've lived in the South for 20% of my life, and no one has ever called me a Yankee, but I've been called a Yank by many a Briton or Irishman.

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