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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 11:52pm on 27/08/2006
I'm back in London, finally, and won't be leaving the country again for a few months at least. For the first time in a year, I'll be fairly geographically stable.

I have a new computer and, thanks to crucial tip from [livejournal.com profile] medievalist, it's working just as it should be working! Instead of just being good for the PhotoBooth feature, it's now a usable replacement to my old laptop whose logic board is fritzy enough to not be usable for much anymore.

I left my jacket behind at Heathrow, and it never showed up in Lost and Found there - but I've replaced it now, and the replacement arrived.

The seacoast isn't all so far away when there's a car handy to see it in. We explored Maldon, a scenic boating town with a healthy representation of shops and huge numbers of takeways near the seaside park, this afternoon, and towns around it.

It's good to be home.
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posted by [identity profile] chickenfeet2003.livejournal.com at 11:24pm on 27/08/2006
We explored Maldon

Well I've sailed out of there but as a medievalist you should have been able to glean more significance than that.
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 07:39am on 29/08/2006
I saw the battle site on the road map, no roads marked to lead there at that resolution, and we drove on by. There weren't any touristic signs on the road, to mark its direction, so I presumed there wouldn't be much to see at the site which would mean anything without more text at hand. The trip was fairly impromptu. I didn't track down the Maldon sea salt producing place either.
 
posted by [identity profile] carmen-sandiego.livejournal.com at 11:24pm on 27/08/2006
congrats on the new computer!
And I can't believe I'll see you in person in just a matter of days! (Eek, this means I have a paper to write... ;) )
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 07:39am on 29/08/2006
Thank you! It's shiny.

I'm so excited you're coming!
 
posted by [identity profile] fjm.livejournal.com at 06:17am on 28/08/2006
Welcome back! Will be at the BL on Thursday.
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 07:40am on 29/08/2006
I can be there then.
 
posted by [identity profile] fjm.livejournal.com at 12:34pm on 29/08/2006
2:30 in the courtyard?
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posted by [personal profile] gillo at 11:04am on 28/08/2006
I hope you know all about the Battle of Maldon and that self-satisfied idiot Byrthnoth Beorthelm's son. Stupid git. I there a causeway there still?
 
posted by [identity profile] chickenfeet2003.livejournal.com at 11:25am on 28/08/2006
I don't recall the causeway still being there when I sailed out of Maldon and Burnham but that's 30 years ago or so. It seems improbable. The channels and banks change week to week on the Blackwater. Over the course of a 1000 years not much is going to stay the same.
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posted by [personal profile] gillo at 08:45pm on 28/08/2006
They've probably drained the channel and integrated the island into the main town. There ought to be a plaque to heroic idiocy up somewhere, though, really.
 
posted by [identity profile] chickenfeet2003.livejournal.com at 08:49pm on 28/08/2006
Just checked. Northey Island is still basically mud, there is (kinda, sorta) a causeway and there is a plaque.

http://www.battleofmaldon.org.uk/
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posted by [personal profile] gillo at 08:55pm on 28/08/2006
Interesting - thank you. If the NT has it, it's going to stay the way it is for a long time.

But I wish they'd have slightly less of the heroic and a little more of the total blithering idiot...

It was the first A/S poem I read in the original language. I much preferred The Dream of the Rood, though.
 
posted by [identity profile] chickenfeet2003.livejournal.com at 09:15pm on 28/08/2006
But I wish they'd have slightly less of the heroic and a little more of the total blithering idiot...

I have heard it argued that the earl had to let the raiders cross to the mainland because otherwise he could not bring them to battle and they would just have sailed off on the next high tide to raid elsewhere in that complex of estuaries. I'm not saying I endorse that but it's certainly true that the Vikings in their ships would have had far better mobility than the earl's mounted thanes given the complex sogginess of the whole Blackwater/Crouch confluence.
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posted by [personal profile] gillo at 09:21pm on 28/08/2006
Hmm. He didn't need to let them across and give them time to get into battle array. True they could have sailed away eventually - but not while the tide was that low, I'm guessing.

He was still a classical Brit famous for losing a battle. No-one cares about the winners - it's not as if they consolidated their victory or anything.
 
posted by [identity profile] chickenfeet2003.livejournal.com at 09:26pm on 28/08/2006
It's true they couldn't have sailed away until the tide rose but it would have been as impossible for Brythnoth to cross the causeway in the face of opposition as it was for the raiders. Nobody expected the raiders to consolidate. They were a raiding party but the earl was faced with the very tricky problem of stopping them raiding at will. Who knows whether there was a lost sage praising the victors? The proportion of hack poet works that have survived is pretty damn small.
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posted by [personal profile] gillo at 09:29pm on 28/08/2006
It's a pretty random collection, certainly, from an extraordinarily restricted number of sources. Someone valued the poem. I wasn't inspired, but then my A/S teacher was not an inspiring sort. He may well have been a friend of Beowulf himself, he seemed so old to us.
 
posted by [identity profile] chickenfeet2003.livejournal.com at 09:28pm on 28/08/2006
BTW, I wrote a (not very good) short story told from the POV of one of the victors at Maldon for the 48 hour short story comp last year.
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posted by [personal profile] gillo at 09:30pm on 28/08/2006
Interesting. Did he feel B was an idiot?
 
posted by [identity profile] chickenfeet2003.livejournal.com at 09:37pm on 28/08/2006
Some silly sod must have spiked Byrhtnoth’s breakfast ale because after a while the old bastard moved his whole shield wall back away from the river. I knew we were for it then. Olaf had no choice but to deploy and fight on the ground the old bugger had given up.
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 07:41am on 29/08/2006
I didn't know all about the Battle of Maldon, only that it was, and that it marked on the road map, although not very specifically. We hadn't decided exactly where we were going until we were already in the car. I'm curious enough now to read the poem.

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