I've heard people reminisce about how high school was the best time of their life.
I've heard people reminisce about how university was the best time of their life.
I've never heard anyone reminisce about how grad school was the best time of their life.
Why? Do I need to wait ten years until daily self-doubt has become a fading memory for my colleagues? Or is it that the goals of graduate school are so spread out that it's harder to achieve a feeling of accomplishment at regular enough intervals? Or is it that grad school is ultimately done for professional purposes, that it's a transitional credentialling and rarely an end in its own right? Or perhaps it's that those who really love grad school never end up in conversations which cause them to reflect that life was better back then?
I've heard people reminisce about how university was the best time of their life.
I've never heard anyone reminisce about how grad school was the best time of their life.
Why? Do I need to wait ten years until daily self-doubt has become a fading memory for my colleagues? Or is it that the goals of graduate school are so spread out that it's harder to achieve a feeling of accomplishment at regular enough intervals? Or is it that grad school is ultimately done for professional purposes, that it's a transitional credentialling and rarely an end in its own right? Or perhaps it's that those who really love grad school never end up in conversations which cause them to reflect that life was better back then?
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-still depending on the criticism/grading of others but expected to be independent (contradictory much?)
-having no visibile increase of status or income over 5-7 years
-a growing emphasis on product and time-completed over process
-in the 'studying for large exam' and 'preparing giant document' phases, having no actual day-to-day goals and accomplishments
-the rush to secure funding, coupled with the limitation of only being able to do so much (in most cases, you can't make a lateral move to another program if your funding runs out, like you _can_ do if a job is getting annoying or if you're laid off)
-not having most people understand what the hell you're doing or why you're doing it
Of course, there are things I love about grad school. I'm paid, however little, to sit around and read things that I think ought to be read. And if the gamble works out, a professorial job will be awesome (and solve many of the above problems). I'd much rather be a grad student than, well, anything else I could choose, and definitely more than all the things that people who don't have a choice have to do. But still, there are things about it that make people pretty grim.
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It's been a real relief to have a number of people comment on this post that they really did enjoy their MA degrees; notably, no one has been so positive about their PhDs. Discontent, weariness, confusion, and self-doubt are the most frequent traits of graduate students weblog posts, leavened by the moments of intellectual thrill, satisfying student feedback, and research revelations which make the rest worth working through.
in the 'studying for large exam' and 'preparing giant document' phases, having no actual day-to-day goals and accomplishments
While this is unsatisfying and challenging after years of structured coursework, at the same time, I think it's one of the most important things that a PhD requires. It forces us each to grapple with time management and learn to be independent scholars. I'm still not good at it, but I'm a whole lot better than I was a few years ago.
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It was the Ph.D. that made me feel dejected sometimes.
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One of the best things about reading blogs (esp., once, Invisible Adjunct) was the discussion it opened up, that huge numbers of grad students were discontent in various ways with the graduate school process. Flaws do not make something wrong, but it was equally healthy to have a public discussion in it being completely okay to leave graduate school. It does not equate to personal failing if a system doesn't fit. But equally, those discussions left me wondering about all those who really did enjoy grad school when the alternative cited in these discussions is the propaganda promoting program growth.
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And then there's the continued feelings of fraud (except that you now have a degree to prove that you fooled everybody -- or is that just me?), feeling overwhelmed and overcommitted (except that you now pretty much do it to yourself) ... but also, the having people pay for your travel, the part where you know you finished, the (with any luck) employment.
Me? I occasionally miss the relative safety and protection of Doktorvater, but it's nowhere near the fun of being out there without a net. Not that I haven't done my best to create one so that I can't fall without trying really hard!
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Was a full time professor during my PhD so didn't really get to take part in grad school conversations.
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I can very very definitely say that graduate school has been the most formative period of my life. Probably this has to do with how challenging it's been, and I've changed because of it. But if I were given a choice between the person I am now, and who I was in undergrad? No contest. I'd rather have grad-school me, even with all the stresses.
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The solitude is the hardest part of the job for me -- I can be alone in a group of people quite happily. I work best in the library, with the pressure of total strangers working around me. But I'm total crap at being by myself and not being distracted.
That seems to be true for many people I know, and for most of the people who are excellent teachers first, and good (or excellent) researchers second. The sucky part is that the extroverted teacher-types are often considered second-class citizens and get fewer opportunities to research, although without us, the introverted researcher types (and yes, I know I'm talking extremes here) wouldn't have nearly the same amount time to indulge their own work.
And of course, I'd say that the very self-disciplined and smart out-perform the brilliant but flakey on a daily basis.
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The social elements are, I suspect, why most people who've responded to this enjoyed their MAs more unadulteratedly than their PhDs.
It's such a pity that teaching ends up being rated as a second-class activity when it's so important. This week's mediev-l discussion on accountability is indirectly relevant here: how to rate and account for adequacy of teaching? It's easier to run down list of what publications have been accomplished.
Your comment has left me with incoherent thoughts on the changing status of various professions. Low-class surgeons in antiquity. Teachers/people-who-know-things-and-pass-them-on as keepers of tradition, preservers of community knowledge and their differing importance among communities over time. I wonder if there's any correlation at all between the widespread "we are all individuals" concept and the "new research is better than old teaching" presumption. How was the teaching/research status balance before the '60s?
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Back to the US, one of the funny things is that, at least in History, there are a lot of SLACs (like the one that hired me, did I mention I have a JOB!!!! --sorry) that are known to produce good future PhDs, and are feeders to the big name Uni's. One of the things that encourages me is that there has been a big push to strengthen the teaching of History and to remind people that it is an academic discipline with its own ways of thinking and writing (again going back to a couple of things on the Mediev-L list and some of the stuff that comes out on H-Teach). I'm reading Sam Wineburg's latest at the moment, and it's really good. It seems that, in having to justify the existence of the field, good teaching is starting to receive more credit. At least, i hope so!
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Having said that, I think that grad school may well have been the best time of my life. To be in a community where my mentors actively respected and encouraged my ideas, allowing me to produce a substantial piece of work of my own devising. Not to mention substantial amounts of free time. That's pretty sweet. Not to mention that grad school represents the period when I got married! Were there times when I was frustrated and despised it? Damn right. But compare that to a 9-5 desk job, and I'd take grad school any day.
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I have to say, grad school is probably the best time in my life. College was miles better than high school, and grad school has been, on the whole, excluding various life difficulties that really have nothing to do with the experience of grad school itself, leagues better than college. And I think that has to do with being in a place where my skills, interests, and strengths are valued and recognized, rather than denigrated and mocked, and also continuing to mature and become more settled in who I am.
But as to the general question, as to why so many more people prefer college to grad school (again, feh, I spit on people who enjoyed high school), I think it has to do with time of life. Many of us were miserable in high school, which is a time when hormones run unchecked and people are not fully socialized yet. And grad school often takes place during adulthood--one cannot be so carefree as many middle-class college kids are, because one is more concerned with taking care of oneself, worrying about the future, financial concerns, and planning families. Finally, in grad school, the heady freedoms of college--being able to do what you want without your parents looking over your shoulder--are more or less de rigeur, and thus no longer carry euphoria with them.
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I thank my lucky stars every day that I'm still here...even when I'm in term-paper-hell.
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I'm not prone to best-time-of-my-life conversations, though. For one thing, I prefer to believe that the best is yet to be; for another, it seems ridiculous to say that a given time is Best In All Ways. Right now, my work life is lousy but I think there might be light at the end of the tunnel, my friendships are good but I think I could do a better job maintaining them, my religious life is good but overscheduled (also suffering from confusion with my work life), my family life is good but I miss various departed relatives like hell, and my love life is better than it has ever been but I refuse to contemplate a downturn. So it's complicated, and I wind up sounding a bit like Candide when I try to express it. ;)
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I've heard so many stories about PhDs from hell that I am not considering one any time soon, mainly because there's nothing I'm passionate enough about to spend 4 years slaving over it. Though I do enjoy research, sometimes. ;)
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Teacher tend to be supportive to undergrads but once the line is crossed into graduate studies your on your own or your out. At least that was how it was for me.