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Ice dancing question

posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 02:52pm on 21/02/2006
I watched all of the ice dancing free skate last night, all 23 couples, on one of BBC 2's digital extra channels - so no commercial interuptions (which made cooking dinner a challenge...)

Today, I find a kerfuffle of posts exclaiming how dense the Isreali team were to skate to Ravel's Bolero, a piece of music which "belongs" to no one but Torville and Dean.

Thing is, the Isreali team wasn't the only one which skated to that music last night. Another team did as well, and other than a passing Telegraph mention that two teams skated to it, I can find no listing of which teams skated to what music and, more to the point, which other team used Bolero. Help?

Update: Found it! The first of Russia's three entries in the ice dancing competition danced to a "Flamenco Bolero". It had odd extra vocal elements in it.
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posted by [identity profile] madcatlady.livejournal.com at 03:22pm on 21/02/2006
I dunno which other team it was - must have been a team outside the top 12, which were the ones I watched. I liked the new Bolero routine - what a bendy lady she was, and far nicer to look at than Jayne Torville to boot :-).

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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 05:33pm on 21/02/2006
Found it! They were a Russian team, dancing to an oddly stylized flamenco Bolero. They went 14th, and were ranked 13th in the overall standings at some point or other.
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posted by [identity profile] littleowl.livejournal.com at 05:11pm on 21/02/2006
I did enjoy the Israeli team's take on Ravel's "Bolero", though it didn't pack quite the same punch as the Torvill & Dean routine did back in '84.

Then again, I watched that one when I was 10 ... so perhaps the shiny patina of nostalgia has something to do with that.

I did some poking around on the 'net and it looks like the Swiss team was also using a piece called "Bolero" but it's from Moulin Rouge. They used this piece during the 2004-2005 season, so I'm not sure if they used it again at the Olympics.
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 05:32pm on 21/02/2006
It wasn't the usual version of Bolero - there were some odd extra vocal elements involved at various points. But, thanks to having another look at the tables thanks to your comment - I found the answer here! It's labeled as a "Flamenco Bolero".

It was a Russian team, the 14th group to go.
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posted by [identity profile] taldragon.livejournal.com at 05:56pm on 21/02/2006
a Russian couple used Bolero a couple of years ago, when i was watching whatevercompetitionwason, and got the same 'oooo arent they _brave_! Torvill&Dean*mutter*' :)
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posted by [identity profile] sioneva.livejournal.com at 06:30pm on 21/02/2006
See, I don't think anybody *shouldn't* use Bolero - it's just that the other routine was so hypnotic that that's what the music conjures up for me no matter who dances it, which I think decreases my ability to really appreciate the newer versions.

I thought the Israeli team did a good job, though, overall - I didn't see the flamenco Bolero performance earlier on although I remember hearing the music during one of BBC2's commentary sessions...thought the vocals were just plain BAD ;) If you're going to dance it, don't throw in wailing. But that's just me.

The commentators on BBC coverage were actually far more critical of the Russian couple using Carmen for the billionth time than of Bolero - as Cousins pointed out, Carmen's WAY overused while at least the Israeli couple did justice to the music of Bolero.
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posted by [identity profile] austengirl.livejournal.com at 09:23pm on 21/02/2006
I didn't see the Israelis' entire routine, but one of the BBC commentators pointed out that the required elements and indeed performance styles are incredibly different from the rules Torvill and Dean had to perform under. So the performances aren't really comparable aside from the choice of music. I think when T&D were in their last Olympics, some of the lifts and jumps they did weren't allowed (and thus got them deductions), which are now required or at least encouraged.

I don't know if there was the same kind of response in American media, since T&D are the ice dancers for the ages here and it's difficult to avoid comparisons in the British media.
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posted by [identity profile] maxineofarc.livejournal.com at 01:41am on 22/02/2006
I don't think I ever want to hear "Bolero" again, associated with skating or otherwise.
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