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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 11:07pm on 20/03/2005 under , ,
I arrived in London with a pyrex pie pan in my suitcase to a household with no rolling pin, inadequate numbers of mixing bowls, no suitable surface for rolling out the dough, and no pie recipe. The first three items were easily acquired on Oxford Street (although I would love to know where a good cooking supply store in London is); the lack of recipe was saved by the prompt aid of [livejournal.com profile] sioneva and [livejournal.com profile] flos_campi. Between them, I made one truly delicious pie with a really tasty crumble topping.

Of course, the real question at stake today was what constituted a pie: can it have a crumble or meringue topping? Is a tart a kind of pie or not? Must a pie have pastry on all sides to count? These conundrums inspired [livejournal.com profile] easterbunny and [livejournal.com profile] aca to host the first Annual (or perhaps Quarterly) Great LiveJournal Pie-Off today down in the wilds of Cheam.

And oh, was there pie. There was taco pie, steak and kidney pie, breakfast pie, cherry pie, pecan pie, pumpkin pie, mostly apple pie, a cake masquerading as a pie, mince pies... and quite a few others as well. Most attendees had baked a pie - or three - and there was plenty of pie for eating... and judging... and taking home in the plastic containers which the hosts had thoughtfully provided. I'm happy to report that of all the sweet pies, I liked mine the very best - even if it didn't win the "Best True Pie, Sweet" award. It did sweep the "Pie from Afar" category, however, and I have a pretty certificate to prove it.

We had a lovely time, met lots of new people (since we only knew our hosts), and admired pictures and pottery. [livejournal.com profile] easterbunny was particularly thoughtful: she washed and dried our towels in which we'd wrapped the pie for transport! It was a lovely, pie-filled day.

Update: Pie awards and photos are here.
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posted by [identity profile] easterbunny.livejournal.com at 11:21pm on 20/03/2005
I'm so glad you both could come. Here's to an exploration of pie once you have a more local pie base this summer!
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 09:42am on 21/03/2005
Hurray for more pie!

The pecan pie was my second favorite sweet pie. Mmm. My father was astounded that it is now possible to buy pecans in London. He's a big pecan pie fan.
 
posted by [identity profile] easterbunny.livejournal.com at 10:59am on 21/03/2005
Most grocery stores carry a quite respectable selection of nuts - the trick is knowing where to find them (took me a few years): 1) organic snacking nuts in the Vegetable section, 2) packaged nuts in the Baking aisle, or 3) salted (and occasionally unsalted) in the small snack aisle (which is not necessarily anywhere near the chip / crisp and pretzel aisle).
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 12:15pm on 21/03/2005
I think my father's surprise is also a result of time-lag. The last time he lived in Britain was in '86. The food scene around here has come a long way since then.

I both admired and was confused by the nut selection at Waitrose, but then it is a very odd store. They had quite a variety of nuts, including pecans, in multiple places, as you say. But they had only two choices of peanuts... ready salted or unshelled. For no other nut was my only choice of plain nuttishness unshelled. Not that it's hard to shell peanuts.
 
posted by [identity profile] aca.livejournal.com at 11:32pm on 20/03/2005
Thankyou for coming, lovely to see you. Your pie was indeed tasty.
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 09:43am on 21/03/2005
It was good to see you too! I'm glad you liked it.
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 09:45am on 21/03/2005
Pie, glorious pie... my favorite diet.
 
posted by [identity profile] doctor-mama.livejournal.com at 03:15am on 21/03/2005
I have not had much luck with pie, though the tart I made last week was very nice.
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Pie

posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 09:44am on 21/03/2005
This is only my second pie, and I've never made a tart. My first pie wasn't exactly a disaster... but it sure showed I had no idea how to deal with pastry dough. In retrospect, I'm glad I didn't bring the recipe I'd used before with me - by asking for help, I ended up with a much tastier pie than I would have otherwise had.
 
posted by [identity profile] a-d-medievalist.livejournal.com at 11:55pm on 26/08/2005
mmmm .... envious of the pie! Secrets to good crust: real lard. Nasty, but true. Butter isn't bad, but either way, it needs to be cold. Also, iced water added in miniscule amounts. I think you may want to dump your leftover dough. Refrigerating and even freezing are fine for cookies, but something happens with the gluten in the pie crust dough, and you may find that it had become very tough. Sorry if you know all of this.
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 07:01pm on 27/08/2005
I've made more pie since I wrote that, but I'm still a novice in the Way of Pie, so your advice is useful. I used the dough from previous pie-baking within a few days of making it, and it turned out okay. Of course, it might have turned out even better had I not frozen it, as per the recipe's directions. I won't be using real lard this time around, but perhaps next time.
 
If I had been there, I would definitely have brought this tart: http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/recipe_views/views/15748?epiSearchPage=http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/find/results?search=butternut+tart and it would definitely have won in the savory category
It's incredibly easy to make (and if you take the shortcut of using frozen piecrust and microwaving the squash I don't think it really changes anything it's pretty quick, too) and has become my signature potluck dish.
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 04:16pm on 23/03/2005
That sounds really, really good. And I have pie dough left over from Sunday in the house still... and I was going to grocery shopping anyways... Thank you for the recommendation!
 
On fruit pies (I may be making one tomorrow ...) I still have a bit of trouble with the balance (did I mention that I seldom use recipes, except for the pastry?), but for cooked berry pies, it's important not only to use enough corn starch to help the juices set AND to let the pie cool. Otherwise, you just get really tasty runny stuff with crust. This is, IME, true for blue-, black-,and raspberries. And rhubarb, which is clearly not a berry, but cooks down in the same way.

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