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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 12:52am on 08/11/2013
New to me today, three Australian terms for redheads: Ranga, Bloodnut, Blue (or Bluey).

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posted by [identity profile] highlyeccentric.livejournal.com at 09:15am on 08/11/2013
Note: I am only aware of "blue" or "bluey" being used as nicknames. You can be A ranga or A bloodnut but you can't be a bluey, if that makes sense?
 
posted by [identity profile] coth.livejournal.com at 10:11am on 08/11/2013
There's a colour called 'blue roan' that (used to be?) applied to horses that is a kind of reddish chestnut - maybe related?
 
posted by [identity profile] kekhmet.livejournal.com at 01:45pm on 08/11/2013
Blue roan is not reddish at all though? Not unless someone is mislabling darker red roans as blue roans. Blue roan is roan (intermingled white hairs, but not a horse going grey) on black, and looks blueish grey or purpley* at most (*in a far more more blue than red purple sort of way) All the blue roans I've ever known or seen pictures of were definitely not red. If they were they got labeled Red Roan or Strawberry Roan.

Red roan is Roan on bay.
I suppose on a dark bay might look almost like a reddish tinged blue roan. So I guess some of these might be refered to by some people (arguably incorrectly ;-) ) as blue roan, since the colloquial useage of horse colour terms doesn't always strictly follow the "proper" definitions of the colour terms labelled by genetic colour-base + modifiers
In fact - to underline the above about colloquial usage vs genetics as the basis for colours... Interestingly I see wikipedia claims this is called 'bay roan' but "Formerly, bay roans were lumped together with chestnut roans and both called "red roans." "

Whereas I. in the days of "formerly" I expect ;-) was taught that
Strawberry roan is roan on chestnut (and never "red roan is also roan on chestnut" it was always - if it has a black mane and tail and lower legs -> roan on bay -> red roan)
Edited Date: 2013-11-08 01:47 pm (UTC)
 
posted by [identity profile] gillpolack.livejournal.com at 11:14am on 08/11/2013
Blue was a joke - someone has red hair, so call them 'Blue.' It's not adjectival - it's a straight nickname. Dates to the 19th century AFAIK, for I've seen it in late C19 Aussie lit.

Ranga is short for orangutang in folk etymology so when someone uses it about someone else, it tends to be as an insult. Not always, but it definitely was only used nastily for a fair while.

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