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Overheard at the library today, mother to c. 3 year old daughter: "Go get some books. But not all pink ones!"

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It may well be a song, but I only know a tune for the last line, the first three were mainly spoken.

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I know it as 'incy wincy spider', and it has a tune.

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Whereas I know it as Incy Wincy, but it's definitely a nursery rhyme to me. I suppose I have always known that there was a tune - but that's like knowing there's a film of a favourite book. You don't have to go and see it; you've already got the original, the one that matters.

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I was about to say 'Is this the same as Incy Wincy Spider'? In which case, I don't know a tune, but I do know all the actions.

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Me too. A sung and performed (lots of lovely actions!) nursery rhyme.

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I wouldn't say it's a song exactly, but it's definitely recited in a sing-song fashion.

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i cant decicde between the 2 options.
also yes incey wincey is a valid variant :)

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Definitely a song, with a full set of miming gestures to accompany/illustrate it.

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Seconding, from immediate personal experience! ;)

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Incy Wincy spider is a song

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... but so many nursery rhymes are also songs! They're overlapping categories.

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this!

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(Another one who knows it as Incy Wincy Spider. It's a nursery rhyme with actions. Like This Little Piggy. A chant rather than a song.

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I don't know any tune for it. And it wasn't "Itsy Bitsy", it was "Incey Wincey".

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I only know it as a nursery rhyme, except that I've heard a filk version of it set to the tune of The Mary Ellen Carter.

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Incy Wincy is the English version, Itsy Bitsy the North American variant. And of course it's a song - Carly Simon spliced it onto the live version of "Coming Around Again"...

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Itsy Bitsy might be the American version, but I wouldn't say North American - in Canada I learned it as Eensy Weensy. (And it is a song with actions for me :)

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Incy Wincy, and with a proper tune and actions, so a participatory song.

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You can't sing nursery rhymes? I know it as 'Incy Wincy', and I think of it as a nursery rhyme which can be sung or chanted. I don't know any actions.

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Other comment: never heard of it until I was an adult. Still wouldn't recognize it if I heard/saw/read it.

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Another vote for "Incy wincy spider" here. I'm not sure how you're distinguishing between "song" and "nursery rhyme", to be honest, but I'd class it as nursery rhyme. I'm sure it was regularly sung on Listen With Mother when I was a child and we definitely sang it at school -- with tune and actions.

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Nursery rhymes are a subset of songs so a tick for nursery rhyme is a tick for both.

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It's "Incy Wincy Spider" and is a song with actions. That is also a nursery rhyme.

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Climbed Up The Water Spout.

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re incy-wincy vs itsy-bitsy: Obviously these are merely variant translations from the original Latin.

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I ticked song, but its more of a coordination and memory teaching aid.

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I think of it as a song in the sense that I can't imagine it being delivered in spoken word form without sing-song intonation etc. (except perhaps by William Shatner...). So I indicated that above.

However I'm not sure I'd rebel at it being called a nursery rhyme also, but there are plenty of nursery rhymes that can be delivered without intonation and itsy bitsy spider is not one I've heard delivered that way. I would tend to agree they are not exclusive categories.

Note that this list of Nursery Rhymes http://www.rhymes.org.uk/ includes plenty of what I would call songs, but some of those songs I would clearly associate as nursery rhymes also. So if the Three Blind Mice show up in the land of Nursery Rhymes I'm not going to yell "WHAT?!?!".

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Incey Wincey Spider is both a song and nursery rhyme. So is Polly Put the Kettle On and so is See Saw Margery Daw. There are many others.

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I think I misunderstood the true point of the poll when I voted. <:) I chose the nursery rhyme option because that's how I think of it, but I do know the tune and have sung it to the youngling on the rare occasions it's received an airing. (He has a few favourite giggle games, and that isn't one.)

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I think my primary knowledge is of the "Itsy Bitsy Spider" as a song, and I voted accordingly, but I wanted to note the following: I was always aware of an equally valid linguistic variant--but spelled "Eensy Weensy", not "Incey Wincey."

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I heard eensy-weensy as child in California . Always a song which included actions. I apparently requested 'Eeenty Piedah!' frequently.

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I know a full tune (definitely not chant) for it, with motions.

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