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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 10:40pm on 06/01/2013
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posted by [identity profile] steer.livejournal.com at 10:48pm on 06/01/2013
To my shame I didn't know and had to google. The obviously grammatical answer is Master's (it is the degree of a Master it is a Master's degree). However, I very rarely see it written like that. That is the correct answer though.
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 10:58pm on 06/01/2013
Thank you for the comment - it's faintly reassuring as to the degree to which "Masters" is in common usage.

(Actual context, editing: I'm looking at an article, for a magazine which I do not edit, which spells it "Masters" throughout and was trying to decide how important it was to suggest correcting it.)
 
posted by [identity profile] nisaba.livejournal.com at 06:36am on 07/01/2013
That's what threw me. Grammatically "Master's" made more sense, but I couldn't remember ever seeing it written that way so assumed I was wrong (again, the resolution: Have more faith in myself).
 
posted by [identity profile] sollersuk.livejournal.com at 11:00pm on 06/01/2013
Master's. I am a singular Master, not a plurality.
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 11:05pm on 06/01/2013
You don't contain worlds? I am disappointed.
 
posted by [identity profile] tsutanai.livejournal.com at 03:54am on 08/01/2013
Buddhist cosmology, then, points towards using Masters. We're all just bags of karma and skandhas, and not a unitary being at all.

(And therefore my stance is consistent. Hurray!)
 
posted by [identity profile] kashmera.livejournal.com at 12:58am on 07/01/2013
Oops, guess I got that wrong then!
 
posted by [identity profile] forthright.livejournal.com at 05:04am on 07/01/2013
My sense is that since "Master" as a title is still gendered as male, some people don't see it as a "degree that certifies that you are a master" and so choose the second option "masters". Definitely getting more popular in common usage.
 
posted by [identity profile] lil-shepherd.livejournal.com at 05:48am on 07/01/2013
It really depends, I suppose, on whether it is seen as personal i.e. becoming a master, in which case it is a Master's Degree, or joining a group of/called Masters, in which case it could be either a Masters' Degree (if the degree is regarded as being owned or possessed by the group called 'Masters') or a Masters Degree if it is a simple label.

Apologies for adding a third possibility.
 
posted by [identity profile] steepholm.livejournal.com at 06:33am on 07/01/2013
Yes, rightly or otherwise I visualize it as a matter of accession to a club of superbeings - masters of the universe (or science, arts, etc.).
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posted by [identity profile] heleninwales.livejournal.com at 09:57am on 07/01/2013
I think I've usually seen it without the apostrophe, so your suggestion that "Masters" is being regarded as a label makes sense.

I usually ponder it for a moment, then give up and write MA, MSc or MEd. Though that leads to a mental debate about whether to use fullstops in the abbreviation or not. :)
 
posted by [identity profile] lil-shepherd.livejournal.com at 10:13am on 07/01/2013
I've never been able to figure out the rules for whether you use a period in initials and abbreviations (and there is an abbreviation in MSc, for instance) or not. This hit me full tilt recently when reading some stories (both pro and fan) where the author put a period at the end of Mr, Mrs and Miss (Mr. Mrs. Miss.) which throws me completely, but I would be shocked to see M.(for Monsieur) without it. Does it come down to 'use for pure initials' which would make M.A. right but M.Sc. wrong? Are Mr. and Mrs. wrong because they both end with the last letter of the abbreviated word? (Mister and Missus/Mistress.) Or do you just throw up your hands in despair and consult the style book of whatever publication you happen to be writing for?

 
posted by [identity profile] inamac.livejournal.com at 03:44pm on 07/01/2013
With apostrophes I work on the principle that if one leaves them out one is less likely to be hit by the Punctuation Police (and I suspect that the author of your article feels the same way).
 
posted by [identity profile] 4ll4n0.livejournal.com at 09:30pm on 11/01/2013
I figured out my response by consulting my thesis to see what I did.

In it I consistently use "Master's degree" (in that in the only instance I use that form;), but I use the term "Masters" as short for Master's degree (ie "he had a Masters in Accounting"). Also I'm inconsistent about whether it is "Master's studies" or "Masters studies", I used both once and I went with "Masters student" in the only usage of that phrase. Hope this helps clarify the issue.

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