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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 03:31pm on 12/04/2011 under
I had thought I owned quite a decent range of cookbooks these days, but today, they have failed me. As far as I can tell, i do not have single cookbook which suggests ways to cook pork belly. As I kept flipping through book after book, I eventually recalled that pork belly is nigh impossible to find in the US. None of my NA cookbooks had recipes, but I thought surely, surely, the British ones will. But no.

I am not lacking in ways to cook the meat: various brochures from Olive and the packaging of the meat itself offer up suggestions. There's always the whole wide internet. Still, I am feeling as if my cookbook collection isn't quite up to snuff today.
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posted by [identity profile] alexmc.livejournal.com at 02:52pm on 12/04/2011
For most of my life I only heard of pork bellies as some sort of commodity sold in American financial markets, along with coffee, and orange juice.

I rarely go to my cookbook selection myself. For instance my favourite pork belly recipe was taught to me by my chinese mate Norman. He cooks it with light and dark soy sauce, sugar, ginger, star anis, carrots, chinese vinegar and chinese rice wine. It slow cooks for many hours.
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 02:59pm on 12/04/2011
I have just enough cookbooks in my life that I feel I ought to use them when possible, especially when trying out a new (to me for cooking at home) meat cut. Obscure ingredients - such as my new treasure trove of Australian bush herbs and spices - I will forgive the books for not mentioning. Also, I am still exceedingly cautious when it comes to cooking meat and trying to get it right - neither undercooked nor over. I find it easier to freely experiment with non-meat, because the degree of cooking necessary for safe sampling is so much wider.

I have all those ingredients in the house.... Marinaded first, or just cooked in the liquid? If I start now, it can have up to four hours cooking before dinner. Perhaps I will be asking the internet after all.
 
posted by [identity profile] alexmc.livejournal.com at 03:23pm on 12/04/2011
you can cook it in the liquid - and yes four hours is best :-)

I wonder if I typed up the recipe anywhere.
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 03:26pm on 12/04/2011
 
posted by [identity profile] alexmc.livejournal.com at 03:56pm on 12/04/2011
The first is very close to my recipe - except that I don't use garlic in it, and fry the pork first. I don't suppose it matters too much after simmering for three hours.

Of course you can replace the pak choi with whatever green vegetables you have to hand :-)
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posted by [personal profile] kake at 04:01pm on 12/04/2011
Certainly sounds like red-cooked pork (紅燒肉/hóng shāo ròu) to me. I blogged about this a while back (note the info on blanching).
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 04:07pm on 12/04/2011
Thank you for actually explaining the purpose of the initial blanching! I have seen it included as a step several times, without the recipe author bothering to say what the point of it was.
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posted by [personal profile] kake at 04:22pm on 12/04/2011
You're welcome! It's a very useful technique once you know what it's for.
 
posted by [identity profile] alexmc.livejournal.com at 04:10pm on 12/04/2011
It is very similar to red cooked pork - but I note from your article that there are many variations. When I do it you could call it "black cook pork"

I'm watching that video you linked to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmy_oGr4Tzg

A *lot* less soy sauce than my version. I can't see all his ingredients in the video... But the red colour looks far more apetising than mine :-)
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posted by [personal profile] kake at 04:41pm on 12/04/2011
Did you look at the Appetite For China post I linked to? I think the photo there is the most beautiful pork I've ever seen.

I think I prefer it without too much soy sauce, but I'm sure your version is good too!
 
posted by [identity profile] sioneva.livejournal.com at 04:28pm on 12/04/2011
This, re: commodities. I suspect the pathological fear of fat in Americans is part of the reason for the complete absence of recipes in your average American cookbook.

It's SO hard to find pork belly here. Graham's trip to our local GIANT Asian grocery proved unsuccessful and the Korean H-Mart about fifteen minutes' drive north of us only has strips of pork belly, which is definitely not the same as a full pork belly roast (although we made do).

[livejournal.com profile] owlfish, we love this recipe. I know you've got lots of Internet out there, but I thought I'd pass on our personal recommendation for reference!
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 05:33pm on 12/04/2011
Clearly I will need to cook pork belly once a week for the next several in order to try all of these! Thank you for the recommendation.

Thank you for backing up rumor with experience, in terms of the availability of pork belly in the US.
 
posted by [identity profile] innostrantsa.livejournal.com at 05:39pm on 12/04/2011
I'm going to second H, though the availability of pork belly roast here (Austin area) is perhaps a few percentage points better, due to the increasing Korean and Vietnamese/Hmong populations.

Generally, an Asian grocery (or Mexican-- there's a chain in TX called Fiesta that caters more to Mexican and South American needs) is the place to go for at least a few of the more truly obscure meat cuts.
 
posted by [identity profile] targaff.livejournal.com at 03:03am on 13/04/2011
Mmmm, pork belly. I used to be able to get a big slab from Asda for a fiver...

The other pork belly recipe we tried was this one from The F Word, which was similarly delicious. I used to have the original recipe off the website, but I appear to have lost it somewhere along the line. I'm sure you can find it online if this version doesn't do the job.
 
posted by [identity profile] desperance.livejournal.com at 05:04pm on 12/04/2011
Oddly, this is almost exactly what I am currently doing with my pigs' cheeks. (Actually it's not that odd: a classic red braise, except that I have added in chillies and not used vinegar [because it would cut the heat] or rice wine [because, bizarrely, I appear to have none].)
 
posted by [identity profile] perfectlyvague.livejournal.com at 03:01pm on 12/04/2011
look for raymond blanc's recent recipe from his tv series...sublime
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 03:12pm on 12/04/2011
http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/slow-cooked_marinated_21493

That really does sound good. But I am sadly lacking in vacuum packing machines.
 
posted by [identity profile] perfectlyvague.livejournal.com at 03:28pm on 12/04/2011
step 5 is the oven version...
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 03:35pm on 12/04/2011
Thank you for your superior observational skills!
 
posted by [identity profile] perfectlyvague.livejournal.com at 03:44pm on 12/04/2011
ha! i must have blotted the sous vide possibility from my memory
 
posted by [identity profile] drasecretcampus.livejournal.com at 03:49pm on 12/04/2011
Nothing in Hugh Fairly Witless's Meat
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 03:50pm on 12/04/2011
I'm astonished!
 
posted by [identity profile] desperance.livejournal.com at 05:09pm on 12/04/2011
Actually, so am I; he'd have been high on my list. He probably turns it all into bacon or pancetta.

Rick Stein certainly has belly-pork recipes, certainly in one book (basically a rub-with-five-spice-and-then-roast-slowly); if I went downstairs, I'm confident I would find more. But, y'know. All those stairs.
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 05:34pm on 12/04/2011
My only Rick Stein cookbook is about fish so, I admit, I did not even check it in case of pork belly recipes.
 
posted by [identity profile] desperance.livejournal.com at 05:39pm on 12/04/2011
Heh. That would not be the right book, no.
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posted by [personal profile] bob at 05:12pm on 12/04/2011
one day i intend to make chicharrones!
http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2010/06/the-nasty-bits-how-to-make-chicharrones-recipe.html

pork belly deep fried in its own fat. how can that not be awesome.
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 05:41pm on 12/04/2011
That sounds fantastic! And really pretty easy too.
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posted by [personal profile] owlfish at 05:42pm on 12/04/2011
That sounds pretty good too.
 
posted by [identity profile] chickenfeet2003.livejournal.com at 06:03pm on 12/04/2011
Easy enough to find pork belly in Toronto. I cook it as often as the lemur will let me! Favourite ways include red cooked and best of all, slow roasted with crackling

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posted by [identity profile] oursin.livejournal.com at 06:31pm on 12/04/2011
Ottlenghi has a recipe for roast pork belly.
 
posted by [identity profile] genibane.livejournal.com at 04:50pm on 13/04/2011
I had that happen to me when trying to find a recipe for cooking red cabbage German style. I went through all my cookbooks and couldn't find a thing. I didn't even have internet at the time and had to call home and have my Dad look up a recipe.
 
posted by [identity profile] garoduty.livejournal.com at 06:17pm on 15/04/2011
found your site on del.icio.us today and really liked it.. i bookmarked it and will be back to check it out some more later

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